Monday, May 24, 2010
By James Fire
Having completed the 6 part series of The RAPTURE: The WHO and WHEN of it ALL, I decided that there were some loose ends to tie up, and points that could be honed to a finer point, and therefore prove useful for the reader.
This article will hopefully provide these.
TWO FAMILIES -
In any view of eschatology, the two groups of people, namely Israel and the Church, will inevitably come up. From a dispensationalist (and this is a loaded term that can mean many things to different groups) view point there are many that make assertions as to the differences between these two that could be considered unwarranted, even extreme in light of the whole Word of God. Yet distinctions there are. These must be clearly understood, otherwise there will arise confusion regarding the applicability of scripture to the one group or the other.
These finer points could take a seminarian years, even decades to delineate and understand their similarities and distinctions, and it certainly is not the purpose of this article to shed significant light on these matters in any exhaustive sense.
It will be enough simply to show that Israel as a nation comprised of Jews, who are themselves descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and then descendants of the twelve patriarchs (referred to as Hebrews and then colloquially as Jews [derivative of JU’dah]) are a people with whom God has established a covenant, that is the Abrahamic Covenant, to the land of Canaan and to “a seed” which intimates the Messiah via his son, Isaac. The other covenant was to King David, the Jewish King through whom the promise of the Messiah was explicit, involving the throne and government of Israel (thus the term “Son of David” which is an expression of the Messiah).
The reign of the Messiah over Israel, her people, and over the city of Jerusalem in a kingdom foretold in scripture is evident. Two primary sources in the Old Testament are 2 SAM 7:8-16 and PSALM 89:20-37, and confirmed in the New Testament by the angel Gabriel to Mary, the mother of Jesus in LUKE among many other references:
LUKE 1:31-32 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
This is known as the Millennial Reign of Christ. Yet the Messiah is more than merely a King, but the KING of Kings, or even an Emperor, as He will preside over many kingdoms (see REV 11:15). Further it was prophesied that the Gentiles would be converted as well:
And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
The other nation is that of the Church, but it doesn’t have a human lineage as does Israel. Christians do not beget Christians as Jews do Jews. The spiritual birth of the Christian is as a direct intervention of God’s Holy Spirit and His indwelling, thus we who are born again Christians are correctly referred to as “sons of God”.
While Israel is promised earthly blessing and covenants, the Church is promised heavenly. Israel’s dealings revolve around the land, the city of Jerusalem and its kingdom; not so for the Church, whose dealings revolve around no earthly city or kingdom.
To further elaborate the differences between the nation of Israel and the church, these two web links are provided for your viewing:
Distinctions of Israel and the Church
A Q & A About Israel and the Church
The RIGHTEOUS BRANCH REJECTED -
Prophecy as laid down in the Old Testament explicitly reveals when the Messiah would come to Israel, and it was on that appointed day that the LORD Jesus, the Messiah rode into Jerusalem, being heralded as “the Son of David” by the people. Yet the nation had rejected her Messiah, and He was, as prophesied, crucified on the cross.
There are those that assert that the promise confirmed to Mary, regarding her Son being granted the throne of David was broken when Israel as a nation rejected their Messiah, and that the promises that were given to Israel have since been granted to the church. This is heresy, and known as Replacement Theology. God’s promise granted to Israel are according to His grace and in His foreknowledge He knew that Israel would initially reject His Son, but He also knew that according to the prophetic Word which He Himself inspired, they would ultimately receive their Messiah upon His return (ZECH 12:10)!
Also consider the iron-clad argument that Paul makes concerning the promises of Israel remaining intact in ROMANS 9 through 11. Some claim that these verses refer to “spiritual Israel” or the church. Yet if this were the case, then Romans 10:1 doesn’t make any sense:
Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
Prior to the cataclysmic but triumphant event of the crucifixion, the LORD Jesus began a re-direction for His disciples as a result of being rejected by national Israel (MATT 21:42-43). This re-direction was later amplified in the LORD’s command in the Great Commission in MATT 28:19-20: “Go out to ALL nations . . .” As a result there is now this nation, other than Israel, with whom God deals with, the church: 1 PETER 2:9.
All the world in the Old Testament could be divided up into two groups: Jews and Gentiles. Ever since Pentecost and in today’s world there are three distinct groups: Jews, Gentiles and the church (which is comprised of both, but primarily Gentiles). The church is NOT an extension of Israel, as many believe, but an entirely new entity. The mystery of the church was not revealed in the Old Testament but in the New, to the apostle Paul in EPH 3:1-6, and was built by Christ Jesus Himself (MATT 16:18).
Due to the fact that this world by and large rejects the Lordship of Jesus Christ, in favor of the ruling of their own lives, following after the rebellion of Lucifer who likewise spurned the Lordship of Christ Jesus from primordial times in heaven, they will all (Jew and Gentile alike) be judged on that basis (2 THESS 1:7-10).
JESUS the JUST and RIGHTEOUS JUDGE –
The time of Jacob’s Trouble, which is the 70th week of Daniel, commonly referred to as the Tribulation period is that time of judgment upon a Christ-rejecting world. Upon the completion of that Judgment, “the time of the Gentiles” will be over with, and Israel will no longer be oppressed by her enemies (which at the time of the end will comprise of the entire world!). She will encounter her Messiah, only this time she will receive Him gladly, albeit with many tears “as one that mourns his only son”
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Yet this tribulation will have brought God’s chastening of Israel for rejecting her Messiah.
This is quite a significant observation and one that must be considered as the criteria of who will face this incredible time of judgment as meted out by the Lamb of God in His wrath: those who have refused His Lordship.
For this reason, we the church, who’s very Head, is the Christ, Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God (EPH 5:23), and who has proclaimed Him as LORD will not endure this time period. We, whose righteousness is of Christ, will escape this time of judgment which is reserved for the ungodly, the unrepentant, and the unconverted.
2 PETER 2:9
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
1 THESS 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
The GREAT ESCAPE of the EKKLESIA –
Yet if the judgment encompasses the entire world, where then will the church go to escape these things? How can we, who belong to the church, justify the hope of even escaping this time? Simply because the Lord told us so!
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
It’s an interesting point of fact, that one initial action of State when one nation declares war on another is the removal of their ambassadors from the foreign land. Just so, when God prepares the world for judgment, He likewise will remove His ambassadors, that is, the church (2 COR 5:20).
How then will the church escape these things? This is where the doctrine of the rapture enters in to the picture.
As quoted in 2 PETER, God knows how to deliver the godly, and to reserve the unjust for judgment.
This is demonstrated through out scripture: God delivered Enoch and Noah and his family, from the judgment of the flood, albeit by different means. Enoch was translated (raptured) from the judgment, not having seen it*; Noah and family were preserved through it (these then become types [models] of the church and the nation Israel respectively). God delivered Lot from Sodom and Gomorrah and the nation of Israel from the angel of Death in the Passover; He likewise delivered Daniel from the lions den and delivered his enemies there instead; also Daniel’s three friends were delivered by God from the fiery furnace established by Nebuchadnezzar for failing to bow and worship his golden idol. History tells us that the early church was spared in the Roman siege of Jerusalem, and its subsequent destruction by heeding the warning given in Luke Ch. 21.
* - Some would say that Enoch merely died, but this idea that ‘God took Enoch’ seems to apply exclusively to him (and Elijah in another respect). Otherwise if a saint dies, it states that he simply “died” or “slept”. The Hebrew word for “took” as found in Genesis 5:24 regarding Enoch is “laqach” meaning, ‘to take, receive, take away, fetch, bring, take out, carry away, married, buy, accept, drawn, enfold, mingle, reserve, seize,’ In the New Testament, in the book of Hebrews, Paul comments on Enoch being taken by God, in
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
• The word for “translated” in the Greek is: metatithemi and it means “to transfer, to transport, to exchange, to change sides, carry over, remove, translate, and it can mean to “put in another place” or “to remove a person or thing from one place to another” and also “to change”. All of these renderings seem to suggest more than merely the passage of a soul in death, but an actual re-location of said person from the one place, to another place. Paul goes on to say that Enoch was “not found” that is, there were no earthly remains as is typically the case when one merely dies.
Getting back to how the righteous are delivered from judgment, we likewise are those who are adorned with the robes of righteousness will be delivered from that time of supreme Judgment at God’s Holy hand.
There are some that contend the reference found in 1 THESS 4, refer to the resurrection, and have nothing to do with a supposed ‘rapture’ but this leaves a problem unsolved.
Let us ask, what is the singular prerequisite for the resurrection of an individual to take place?
The person to be resurrected must, of course, first be dead! If they are yet living, there is nothing to resurrect. Some might argue that this chapter in 1 Thessalonians as well as 1 Corinthians15 is a spiritual resurrection of all believers, living and dead, and yet this too is incorrect as all of us have had our spirits resurrected, that is, brought from the deadness of sin and death to life when we were born of God’s Spirit (COL 2:12-13; EPH 2:1,5-6).
MORE THAN A RESURRECTION –
Thus this rapture of the church must be something more than just a resurrection as it involves the LIVING as well as the dead. It is a transformation, the putting away of the corruptible and the putting on of the incorruptible; this is experienced by all saints at the rapture of the church, both living and dead in Christ.
1 THESS 4:16-17
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
In the six part series of The RAPTURE: The WHO and WHEN of It ALL, I had already laid out a comparison of scriptures that compare the LORD’s Second Coming to that of the Rapture of the Church, so I will not duplicate that here, but there are certain distinctions between these two events.
Someone once asked Dave Hunt, Show me chapter and verse in the New Testament that reveals two comings; to which he replied, Show me chapter and verse in the Old Testament that reveals two comings: you can’t find it in the Old Testament. Yet by the whole counsel of scripture we perceive that this is the case, and when the Messiah came the first time, it was with His promise that He would come again.
In the passage above, it clearly states that we who are alive and remain, will be caught up, that is harpazo in the Greek, which means a sudden, drastic taking away by great power. We are taken into the LORD’s presence, and yet our LORD Himself stated through the apostle Paul that “flesh and blood (that is corruptible bodies) cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 COR 15:50)”. Obviously a radical transformation must take place for us living, in order to enter into the kingdom of God, and behold the glory of the LORD. In English, it’s stated as “caught up” and in Greek, its harpazo, and in Latin, its rapiere, which is where the term ‘rapture’ came from.
We shall receive glorified bodies; this will conclude the eternal redemption that began with the redemption of our spirits, which were cleansed of sins deadly mark and brought to life (COL 2:13; REV 1:5).
We are presently being redeemed in our souls or one could say, minds, as we increase in sanctification and in the putting on of the mind of Christ, putting on the new man, and putting off the old, mortifying the deeds of the body, etc (EPH 4:22, 24; COL 3:5,9-10; ROM 8:13).
There is coming a day when that which was laid down by God as a down payment or “earnest” (the Holy Spirit; see EPH 1:14) will be completed, and our bodies, with their sinful nature and attributes will be utterly transformed. On and from that day forward, into eternity, we saints will no longer know the meaning, sensation or experience of sin ever again!
No longer will we know the struggles against sin warring in our members. Our bodies will be holy, entirely lacking in any capacity for sin! This is what the latter half of 1 COR 15 is all about! What a glorious thing to think upon, and wonder at! This indeed, of itself will be a kind of heaven for us, will it not?
A JIGSAW PUZZLE FOR JESUS CHRIST?
There have been atheists and agnostics, and other sorts of skeptics that have raised the question about the missionary who goes to Africa to minister to cannibals, and he is killed, and eaten by them all. One of those cannibals is then eaten by a lion, another dies and rots in the ground (and the corpses composite nutrients feed a sapling that grows into a mature tree), yet another is burned to ashes in a fatal fire, etc, etc. How then is God going to resurrect that missionary since his body and all its cells are distributed throughout the entire African village and beyond?
Its entirely feasible in my mind, that an Almighty God, who governs the path of every molecule as well as the red giants floating in the vast expanse of space, Who holds every atom together by the Word of His Power, and is aware of the number of hairs on every individual’s head, living on planet Earth, has likewise accounted for every cell of every believer who has died, and is well able to gather them all up and re-establish that saint’s body.
Yet in all actuality, such wouldn’t even be necessary! What was Adam’s body comprised of, according to GENESIS 3? The dust of the earth! Well, if God so desired, He could scoop up some star dust and created glorified bodies for each of us out of that! Being intimately aware of our composite structure, down to the finest details, He could easily reconstruct any of us, in any glorified form He so chose!
If He wanted to give us bodies made from diamonds, He could do so! If He wanted to give us bodies made of fire, He could do so! Can you justifiably put “God” and “difficult” in the same sentence??
Like Jeremiah proclaimed by the Spirit of the LORD:
Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?
That’s a rhetorical question, as the answer is obviously, NO! There is NOTHING too difficult for God, for He is the Almighty One! His power and abilities and Mind are far, far beyond us mortals of clay and finite spirits!
RETIRING OUR ‘JARS of CLAY’ -
Yet the time of our temporary capsules of clay will know a termination date, and after that, when we enter the glories of heaven, we shall not be disembodied spirits floating about in heaven’s domain. As it states in 1 CORINTHIANS:
1 COR 15:44
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
We will have bodies to exist for eternity in heaven, but they won’t be earthly or natural bodies, but spiritual or supernatural bodies. They will be tangible, but shall enjoy abilities and mechanisms we don’t currently employ in the present models we now possess.
Consider the LORD Jesus Himself, after His resurrection, in His own glorified body, the “first begotten of the dead”: He routinely ate fish, bread, honeycombs, etc. His followers, the apostles, reached out and handled Him and saw that He was “flesh and bone (note – not flesh and blood; see LUKE 24:39 and 1 JOHN 1:1)” and yet He could pass through walls, or appear in the midst of a room while its doors and windows were closed.
TROPHIES of TRIUMPH -
His glorified body also retains the scars He won at Calvary, those emblems which we shall forever behold as trophies of triumphant love on our behalf! The only man made thing in heaven will indeed be the scars on the Lamb of God!
It brings me to tears every time I think of these things, and on pondering them one day, I sat down and wrote a poem for my blog, FROM the MIND of FIRE. Should you like to read it, you can follow the link here:
Tears for the LORD
Until that Blessed Day when the LORD “rends the heavens” (ISAIAH 64:1), and comes down to take His Bride away with Him, we must persevere on this rebel planet of sin and darkness, living our lives in the holiness provided for every believer through Jesus Christ, and shining as faithful witnesses to a dying race, whose only hope resides in the One that left heaven to die on that cross at Calvary.
A PROMISE of PERSECUTION –
What will this mean for Christians today, in America? If the rapture happens later, rather than sooner, I believe we will see a time in this nation, as almost any other nation has already seen: when the church is persecuted for righteousness sake.
Too many accuse those of us who hold a pre-tribulational view of attempting to avoid the possibility of persecution, and to some extent they have a point. I myself have met with believers who acknowledge the prophetic relevance of our present day, and as I began expounding on the coming perils they would with a dismissive wave of their hand say, “Yes, but we’ll be gone before anything bad happens!”
To which I would always reply, “Who says, the Bible? My Bible states that those who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. There are millions of Christians right now in China, and Saudi Arabia, and Africa, as well as many other nations where they are suffering terrible things for Christ’s sake! Only American arrogance would presume that we will be given the ‘privilege’ of escaping persecution for the sake of the LORD, in this present darkness. In dealing with this and three primary reasons post-tribulational scholars don’t believe in the pre-tribulational rapture view, I would now like to present an article written by Grant Jeffrey, entitled:
Why Do Some Teach that the Church will Endure the Tribulation?
Here are some excerpts:
Some critics have claimed that those who teach the hope of the pre-tribulation rapture are leaving Christians unprepared for the possibility of the coming persecution of the Tribulation period. However, in thirty-five years of being taught Bible prophecy, I have not witnessed any pre-tribulation Rapture teachers instructing Christians that they are immune from end-time persecution.
The prophecy teachers, myself included, who believe God promises that Christians will escape "wrath of God" in the Tribulation often warn believers that persecution is coming, even in North America, if the Lord tarries much longer. However, the post-tribulation Rapture position can rob the Church of her blessed hope. Jesus promised,
I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
The second and more important reason why some are teaching that the Church will be present during this terrible time is the failure to distinguish between God's plan for Israel and His plan for the Church, especially in the prophecy revealed by Christ in MATTHEW 24.
If you had told one of the disciples during the week before Christ's crucifixion that someday there would be an organization based on Christ's teachings, called the Church, and that 99 percent of its members would be uncircumcised Gentiles who would follow neither Jewish law nor offer Temple sacrifices, he would probably have fallen off his chair in shock and disbelief. One of the classic mistakes in interpretation is to take this conversation between Christ and His Jewish disciples concerning the messianic kingdom and read back into it the reality of the Christian Church which did not come into existence until the Jews rejected Christ and God breathed life into His Body of believers.
The Bible describes many Tribulation events that must occur prior to the "gathering" of the Tribulation saints and thus, it cannot be correctly described as "imminent . . . many scholars believe that this "gathering" is a different event than the "Rapture". However, when we turn our attention to the coming of Christ for His Church, we find that there are no warnings or signals given to indicate the time of the Rapture. The Rapture can literally occur at any time.
The third reason post-tribulationist writers have attacked the pre-tribulation Rapture doctrine by claiming that it cannot be true because no Church writer or Reformer ever taught this doctrine until approximately 170 years ago until it was introduced by John Darby, a Plymouth Brethren. Their argument that no one ever saw this "truth" throughout eighteen hundred years of Church history has been very effective, causing many Christians to abandon their belief in the pre-tribulation Rapture. The only problem is that their assertion that no one in the early Church taught the pre-tribulation Rapture has been found to be incorrect.
To read the entire article, please click on the following link:
The Church in Tribulation?
I pray that this article has been useful to you and might shed a bit more light and understanding for you regarding the rapture, as well as the church and Israel.
May the LORD Jesus bless and keep you in His Love, Truth, Grace and Peace until that Blessed Day, Amen! Read more!
Posted by A.M. Kisly at 2:21 PM
Thursday, May 20, 2010
BLOODMONEY - THE BUSINESS OF ABORTION
A NEW DOCUMENTARY FILM THAT EXPOSES THE TRUTH BEHIND THE ABORTION INDUSTRY!
This film will examine the history of abortion in America, from the inception of Planned Parenthood and the profitability of abortion clinics, to Roe v. Wade, to the denial of when life begins, to the fight to save the lives of innocent babies, and the devastating effects it has had on the women that have had them.
The film is a shocking documentary…it will shake you to the core….it is the INCONVENIENT TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION!
You will hear the detailed plans of PLANNED PARENTHOOD to sell abortions by a former abortion worker who admits to intentionally isolating teenagers from their parents and their values, and become the sex expert in their lives….. teens ages 13-18 were given low dose pills that they would get pregnant on, and defective condoms to meet their goal of 3 to 5 abortions from every girl who sought their guidance and help!
The numbers of aborted babies are staggering! Planned Parenthood is ever expanding and building GIGANTIC abortion clinics…………………
The Bible clearly states that we are made in the image of God………….that children are a blessing, not a curse………….and the Bible condemns the killing of the innocent!
Watch for the film…………view the trailer……………and tell everyone you know!
FOR MORE INFORMATION: BLOODMONEY
Posted by A.M. Kisly at 6:14 PM
Thursday, May 13, 2010
by: A.M. Kisly
Romans 1:22 (King James Version)
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."
All those Muslims, they’re so peaceful. We can get along … the Christians and the Muslims … sing kumbaya … gather together and have interfaith dialogue. The Tony Blair Faith Foundation which is seeking to do that thinks so. In fact sitting right there on the board is none other than Rick Warren … oh it must be true… Even the National Association of Evangelicals …A "who's who" of evangelical Christian leaders, including Rick Warren, Robert Schuller, Brian McLaren, Richard Cizik and Bill Hybels, have signed a letter to the Muslim community entitled "Loving God And Neighbor Together" that openly equates Allah with the Christian God. This letter was in response to an open letter from 138 prominent Islamic leaders entitled "A Common Word between Us and You" which stressed that the "unity of God" is "thus the common ground between Islam and Christianity."and others are signing on to this Yale signing document stating that Christians and Muslims can get along….because we worship the one true God and love our neighbor as ourself….REALLY? I DON’T THINK SO!
Allah and God are not the same….even the Muslims don’t believe that!
Both of these letters again and again talk of "God" as if both Christians and Muslims recognize and worship the exact same being.
But is this the case?
Of course not!
Christians believe in a Triune God (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit), while Islam vehemently rejects the deity of Jesus Christ. Instead they worship "Allah" which in reality was an ancient tribal moon god.
The title of the Muslim letter, "A Common Word Between Us and You", sounds so peaceful though, doesn't it?
However, it actually comes from a passage in the Quran that calls for Christians ("people of the book") to deny the Trinity and to submit to Allah as "the one true God".....
O People of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah. (Quran, Sura 3:64)
But instead of rejecting such overtures, the response by over 300 prominent Christian leaders warmly welcomes them. In fact, the Christian letter refers to "god" using terms that Muslims commonly ascribe to Allah. For example, consider this line from "Loving God And Neighbor Together".....
Before we “shake your hand” in responding to your letter, we ask forgiveness of the All-Merciful One
Do you understand what this means?
The "All-Merciful One" is one of the key names for Allah in Islam.
So essentially the Christians are openly praying to Allah and asking for his forgiveness in this letter.
Not only that, in the letter the Christian ministers openly applaud Islamic devotion to Allah.....
We applaud that A Common Word Between Us and You stresses so insistently the unique devotion to one God
There is nothing in the letter about faith in Jesus Christ being necessary for salvation.
Nothing at all about the cross.
Instead, the letter describes the "god" in the Islamic letter (Allah) as "the God whom we should love above all things". Just check out this passage from the letter where once again the Muslim God is openly equated with the Christian God.....
We find it equally heartening that the God whom we should love above all things is described as being Love. In the Muslim tradition, God, “the Lord of the worlds,” is “The Infinitely Good and All-Merciful.”
Not only that, but the Christian letter calls Muhammed a Prophet with a capital "P" a number of times.
How in the world could Muhammed be a Prophet if he constantly denied the divinity of Jesus Christ?
But this letter from over 300 very prominent Christian leaders openly calls Muhammed a Prophet.
The Christian letter goes on to state that if Christians and Muslims fail to make peace, "our eternal souls" may be in jeopardy.....
If we fail to make every effort to make peace and come together in harmony you correctly remind us that “our eternal souls” are at stake as well.
What in the world?
That has nothing to do with real Christianity at all.
In real Christianity, "our eternal souls" are saved through faith in Jesus Christ.
In the final paragraph of the letter we once again see the Christian God equated with the Islamic "god", and Christians and Muslims are urged to meet together and determine "how God would have us fulfill the requirement that we love God".....
We are persuaded that our next step should be for our leaders at every level to meet together and begin the earnest work of determining how God would have us fulfill the requirement that we love God and one another.
By affirming that Allah is God, the 300 Christian leaders in this letter are denying the Triune God of the Bible. The reality is that the Quran denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God no less than nine times.
This letter represents apostasy of the highest order. It is another huge step towards the one world religion and one world church of the last days. The Christian ministers who signed this letter have denied their faith and have brought shame to their ministries and congregations.
Therefore, we are calling for the immediate resignation of each and every Christian minister that signed this letter.
You can find a list of the Christian leaders that signed this letter here:
Yale Center For Faith And Culture
You will likely recognize quite a few names on that list.
Please share this with your family and friends, and join with us in demanding the resignation of the ministers on this list.
Christians and Muslims working together and worshipping the same "god" is not the only hope for mankind.
Salvation through Jesus Christ is the only hope for mankind.
What a sad state the Church is in.
Posted by A.M. Kisly at 5:58 PM
by A.M. Kisly
Many questions are beginning to surface as to whether or not leaders of Evangelical Churches including Calvary Chapel are going the way of the Emergent philosophy. For this reason I would like to present a reasonable word of caution, as well as important facts regarding some upcoming events, and the strange new ties between Evangelical leaders and those of the Emergent and New Age philosophies.
First let me state that the Emergent/New Age/Positive Thinking/Universalist and Global philosophies that are sweeping the Church are not the Gospel of truth, nor the Gospel message of the Bible! It is deception, it is apostasy and it is a rejection of the God of the Bible and his plan of redemption for mankind! It is a complete mockery of the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross and his resurrection power that has brought the sinner to salvation.
As the organized Christian church and church leaders continue in their plunge toward apostasy, turning their heads and ignoring the truth, it is imperative for individual believers to find out the facts and discern what is of God and what is not. We can no more rely solely upon the leadership to show us what is right…because it is the individual believer’s responsibility to know God’s voice, to be students of the Word, and to know the difference between the biblical truth and false doctrine. If not, rest assured, more and more people will be pulled into the tumultuous winds of deception.
As Evangelical leaders continue to compromise, continue to yoke themselves up with those who are preaching a false Christ, a false Gospel message…the Church is becoming confused, splintered and led astray.
While the attack on Christianity increases, our biblical values and freedoms continue to diminish and the apostate church and the world’s global religion is ever growing.
I feel like a broken record, yet I see friends and family and the Church of God playing Russian roulette with their spiritual lives because they don’t know the scriptures, they have no discernment and they believe the word of man over the word of God. The idolatry in this country has infected even the body of Christ. The Church, those who are in the pews blindly follow men because they have not bothered to develop a living relationship with their Creator and have revered the church leader and not the Lord God of heaven and earth.
Take heed Christian friend, take heed!
Consider the words of our Lord and Savior, Jesus. I didn’t say it, he did.
Matthew 7:13-15 (King James Version)
“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”
Recently the very popular Evangelical preacher, John Piper, invited Emergent Church leader Rick Warren to speak at his upcoming Desiring God conference.
2010 Desiring God Conference Speakers
John Piper - Rick Warren
The idea that Rick Warren is “more doctrinal” than he appears is absurd. Warren’s involvement with Tony Blair’s Faith Foundation and its “North American offensive”, as Blair put it, with a purpose of “uniting all faiths,” should be considered to be the doctrine of anti-Christ, shouldn’t it? We will get into some more of Rick Warren’s teachings a bit later.
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II Corinthians 6:14-18
“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
Jesus himself claimed to be the way the truth and the life….no man cometh unto the Father but by me…John 14:6
Ingrid Schlueter (Crosstalk) stated “I don’t know what John Piper is thinking, but giving Warren prime time to manipulate hearers and present himself as just another misunderstood leader, is a serious mistake. Piper’s years of credibility as a trustworthy minister of Gospel truth are being undermined by this decision.”
For me personally, I don’t believe this to be the correct forum in which to find out what makes Rick Warren tick….If John piper has taken a personal interest in Rick outside the scope of prayer, let him do so on his own without exposing the body of Christ to be swayed or deceived by their emotions and false doctrines.
John Piper is not the only one making questionable decisions, Rick Warren and co-worker Leonard Sweet are sharing platforms lately with many popular evangelical leaders (e.g., Joel Rosenberg with Sweet at Breakforth, Rick Warren with Greg Laurie and Chuck Smith at Harvest Crusade, Calvary Chapel pastor Skip Heitzig with Leonard Sweet at Heitzig’s church (later this summer). For those who don’t understand the “new” spirituality and the hoped-for “new reformation” of Rick Warren and Leonard Sweet, maybe it is a good time to research this out.
In March, Lighthouse Trails reported that this coming June, Calvary Chapel Albuquerque (a veteran Calvary Chapel church pastored by Skip Heitzig) will host the National Worship Leader Conference in Albuquerque, New Mexico and will feature New Age sympathizer and emerging church leader, Leonard Sweet. The NWLC event will take place in three different U.S. locations with Sweet participating in two of them.
National Worship Leaders Conference
The worship conference is presented by Worship Leader magazine, whose chief editor is Chuck Fromm (Chuck Smith, Sr.’s nephew). On the conference website, a banner promotion by Greg Laurie, (another veteran Calvary Chapel pastor) sits in a prominent spot. Laurie states: “In Worship Leader magazine, you hear from the leading thinkers, artists, and pastors on how we can more effectively worship God.”
Though there have been many conflicting stories regarding this….including the story that Dr. Sweet will not be speaking, that the leadership of CC Albuquerque had no idea that he would be speaking, and that perhaps the whole conference would be scrubbed, I can tell you that as of today and according to Calvary Chapel Albuquerque’s website on their upcoming events page, Dr. Leonard Sweet will be speaking at their upcoming church sponsored National Worship Leaders Conference. If you scroll down to about the 17th event…National Worship Conference…there is an audio promo posted which states that Mr. Sweet will in fact be speaking.
Though Calvary Chapel has denounced the teachings of the Emergent Church and Contemplative Prayer, one has to ask the very obvious question of why they are teaching along side some of the leading pastors of such New Age and apostate doctrines at scheduled events.
It has been reported that after discussions with other Calvary Chapels pastors, Skip Heitzig had denied knowing about Dr. Leonard Sweet being a guest speaker at this event. He also claimed that he had not been informed of those who would be speaking at his church, and that he would cancel Leonard Sweet as a guest speaker; in fact, he said that he was thinking of “pulling the plug” on the event.
Well, according to their church website, the event is still on (as of this date anyway) and the audio promo clearly states that Dr. Leonard Sweet is a guest speaker.
[Update: Since the posting of this article, C.C. Albuquerque has changed their audio promo, deleting Dr. Leonard Sweet as a guest speaker. According to sources, he was asked not to speak because of the controversy of his Emergent position and New Age philosophy. Though I am very happy about this decision, I think it would be wise to keep a mindful eye on future events. Also, Dr. Sweet is not the only person of question at this event, as you will see further down.]
Calvary Chapel Albuquerque
Also, after some research through the many archives on the internet…there doesn’t seem to be any confusion to me as to whether or not Calvary Chapel’s plea of ignorance is true or not.
As far as I can tell, though NWLC is not an exclusive CC event; both Calvary Chapel pastors and Leonard Sweet have all spoken at this annual event for the past 3 years. So it is not a stretch of the imagination to conclude that Skip Heitzig and staff have full knowledge of who the invited speakers will be, including Dr. Leonard Sweet.
At the 2009 National Worship Leader’s Conference held in Kansas City, Greg Laurie and Leonard Sweet both spoke at the event.
See Greg Laurie’s promotional video:
Greg Laurie at the National Worship Leader Conference 2009
See also the following article from 2009 which states that, “This year’s featured speakers and worship leaders include Michael W. Smith, Greg Laurie, Leonard Sweet, Mac Powell, David Crowder Band, Paul Boloche, Donnie McClurkin, Tommy Walker, Leeland and Lenny LeBlanc.”
See Streaming Faith’s post:
Kansas City to Host 3rd Nat’l Worship Leader Conference
After finding this information, I searched a bit further to see just how many years Calvary Chapel had been attending and speaking alongside Emergent Church leaders at this event.
I won’t post all of the research, but it was very curious to find that at the 2008 NWLC, which was held in Austin, Texas, it was Skip Heitzig and Leonard Sweet speaking at the same event.
In the following link, the blogger writes: “Yesterday we had more incredible sessions, other classes by Paul Baloche and Ross Parsley, and dynamic teaching by Dr. Leonard Sweet.”
National Worship Leaders Conference, Austin Update
Skip Heitzig also wrote about the 2008 event on his own blog.
He writes, “The conference hosted speakers, musicians and loads of workshops for the musically and ministry inclined. This worship conference from the first night had a wonderful air of simplicity and reverence. Rather than introducing the "big name bands" or high profile speakers, one after another came to the platform to share their gift but mostly to shine the stage light of attention onto Jesus. It was an exceptionally receptive group and it was wonderful to see old friends and make new ones. Before I spoke Monday night on, "Casting the Worship Vision--Past, Present and Future" Sarah Kelly and Matt Redman fill the sanctuary with a "joyful noise." These folks were up for a good dose of Bible truth and resonated with the message I brought. I thoroughly enjoyed the staff of Riverbend Church and watched firsthand a great teamwork by many faithful servants in that church community.”
Skip Heitzig - Austin City Limits
Clearly, Calvary Chapel has full knowledge of the type of event, the speakers of the event and have been apart of the event for years.
My question is, why? Why the compromise?
Listen, we are not trying to vilify Calvary Chapel, but we do want to know what the truth of this matter is. Are they going the way of the Emergent Church, or are they compromising because of ignorance? Perhaps it is this New Age quest and obsession of replacing the “old ways” for the new “relevant ways”… in my opinion this third is a very slippery slope indeed….the Church has compromised and compromised. The word has been watered down, changed and now is unrecognizable…all for the sake of the worldly philosophy of being relevant and MEGA popular.
Whatever the reason, it is clearly wrong to compromise, and it is leaving the impression that there is nothing wrong the the teachings and philosophies of the New Age Movement and the Emergent Church.
Who is Dr. Leonard Sweet?
He is a futurist, Emergent Church Leader and New Age Sympathizer
"A sea change of transitions and transformations is birthing a whole new world," wrote Dr. Leonard Sweet, whose books are often quoted in Rick Warren's Ministry Toolbox. "God is birthing the greatest spiritual awakening in the history of the church.... Are you going to show up." (Soul Tsunami: Sink or Swim in the New Millennium Culture - Zondervan, 1999).
If you love truth, you may want to say no! For in his book Soul Tsunami, Dr. Sweet, a popular leader of the Emerging Church, tells us to flow with the currents of change and leave God's unchanging gospel behind. "Postmodern culture is a change-or-be changed world," he continues. "Reinvent yourself for the 21st century or die. Some would rather die than change." (Soul Tsunami: Sink or Swim in the New Millennium Culture - Zondervan, 1999).
The new focus is on unity -- a world-wide oneness reflected in the growing union between the East and West. Leonard Sweet's online book, Quantum Spirituality, sheds some revealing light of the envisioned global "church" for the 21st century. In his view, the offense of the cross has been replaced with a passion for interfaith peace and possibility-thinking. To illustrate this point, Dr. Sweet points to Thomas Merton, the popular Catholic author who popularized mysticism and died in Asia searching the depths of Tibetan Buddhism.
Read Jim's Article: Beware of Prayer - of the Contemplative Kind
Seeking that illusive solidarity, today's success-driven church leaders are rushing into the postmodern age of flexible "truth" and relational pleasures. Unbounded by any solid anchor in God's unchanging Word, they dash forward -- hand in hand with the world -- toward an imagined future attainable through practices long hidden in secret societies and Eastern religions. These include meditative rituals, dialectical synthesis and systems thinking. Add service learning to the last two and you have the transformational strategies first tested by Communist tyrants, then incorporated into the UN - U.S. education system, which intentionally undermined factual, rational learning and established the postmodern ways of thinking. (See The International Agenda and Small Groups and the Dialectic Process)
I would also like to point out that Leonard Sweet while blatantly New Age, he is not the only speaker in question. There are many guest speakers in this upcoming conference who are a part of Saddleback and Willow Creek. Both pastors of both churches, Rick Warren* and Bill Hybels respectively, are graduates of the Robert Schuller School of Church Leadership, and both pastors also endorse contemplative prayer, a 'Christianized' brand of Hindu meditation practices.
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WHO IS ROBERT SCHULLER?
Let’s take a look at the Gospel ACCORDING TO ROBERT SCHULLER (Some of the following excerpts are taken from Let Us Reason Ministries)
His new reformation is not repentance or a renewed sense of dependence on God and his word. No humbling our self before Almighty God. In fact it is the very opposite a boosting of ourselves to a "divine self-esteem." The Bible tells us that our righteousness is like filthy tags before God (Isaiah 64:6), that we've all sinned and fall short of His glory (Romans 3:23), and that there are none who are righteous (Romans 3:10). All this and more is denied by the philosophical musing of a man who claims to represent Christ, His gospel, and the church.
In fact he states "I don't think anything has been done in the name of Christ that and under the banner of Christianity that has proven more destructive to human personality and, hence, counterproductive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, uncouth, and unchristian strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition." (Time, March 18, 1985)
Yet Paul wrote that, "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners" (I Timothy 1: 15), and Christ Himself said that He came to call "sinners to repentance" (Luke 5:32). Yet Schuller rejects the depravity of man which he calls "error" (Self- Esteem the New Reformation,p.162) Romans 3:23 all have sinned. Who is in question here the Bible or Schuller?
What made Schuller successful in his ministry? He had found something wrong with the ancient gospel? He now has the new improved modern version. Schuller message can be attributed to how wonderful life can be if we all come together as one and be positive. His preaching is "Gospel of Positiveness and Success". It has been embraced by numerous unbelievers and quite a numbers of Christian leaders as well. Schuller has stated thousands of pastors and hundreds of rabbis and over a million Muslims a week watch his Hour of Power. The only way to please this wide of an audience is to have only positive things to say lest some feet get stepped on. He believes, "God is trying … to build a society of human beings who live out the golden rule" (Self-Esteem p. 135).
Schuller believes he has found a basic defect in modern Christianity and identifies the problem "What is that basic flaw? I believe is it the failure to proclaim the gospel in a way that can satisfy every person's deepest need - one's spiritual hunger for glory. Rather than glorify God's highest creation - the human being - Christian liturgies, hymns, prayers, and scriptural interpretations have often insensitively and destructively offended the dignity of the person..." (Self-Esteem, p. 31)
Bella Stumbo staff writer for the Los Angeles Times, after an extensive interview with Schuller, wrote: "In short, Robert Schuller believes that God placed him on this Earth to preach possibility thinking" ("The Gospel of Success," 5/29/83, Los Angeles Times, p. 24). To Schuller “this message is, vitally important" he at one time wrote: "I believe in positive thinking. It is almost as important as the resurrection of Jesus Christ." (Michael Nason and Donna Nason, Robert Schuller: The Inside Story, 1983, p. 152). Interesting statement considering the fact that positive, or possibility thinking was not mentioned at all by Christ or taught by his apostles.
Befriending The New Age
Sir John Marks Templeton, founder of The Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion (New Age Beliefs) were first introduced to the church by none other than Robert Schuller in 1986. Templeton's beliefs are clearly expressed in his writings. He is an evolutionist, pantheist, Universalist, and occultist and in no unequivocal terms rejects the God of the Bible, Christ as the only Savior and only way to God. He claims that heaven and hell are states of mind we create here on earth, that truth is relative, and that Christianity is no longer relevant. He states Behind this book is my belief that the basic principles for leading a "sublime life"... may be derived from any religious tradition Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist and others as well as Christian.... (John Marks Templeton, Discovering the Laws of Life, 1994 inside front of jacket.)
Schuller continues to endorse him by putting Templeton's picture on his Possibilities magazine front cover, and running a major interview with Templeton. In it Templeton articulated his Unity of all Religions beliefs, 'Your spiritual principles attract prosperity to you material success comes ... from being in tune with the infinite.... The Christ spirit dwells in every human being whether the person knows it or not; nothing exists except God." (Possibilities, p. 12 Summer 1986, pp. 8-12.) Templeton has become famous for offering a million dollars from his religious research center that is developing progress in religion. Maybe Schuller would like to be the next recipient.
" On an Amway motivational tape, Robert Schuller sums it up: You don't know what power you have within you! ... You make the world into anything you choose. Yes, you can make your world into whatever you want it to be. ( R. Schuller Possibility Thinking: goals Amway corp. tape)
What is this power within? Schuller's article in the Summer 1986 issue of Possibilities magazine explains the central message being that 'all is God and God is all,' the article also declared that, "The Christ Spirit dwells in every human being, whether the person knows it or not" (p. 12). So now we are born with Christ instead of with sin. The bible says the very opposite, Galatians 3:26-28 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." These heresies are upheld by Schuller to his readers and those who watch his TV program.
These are the same teachings that Rick Warren and Bill Hybels have submitted to, studied under, and continue to preach in their own churches today!
Schuller has addressed Unity ministers in training, at the Unity School of Christianity in Kansas City, not only stating that he agreed with their teachings (which, among other things, reject the gospel of Christ, and teach Yoga, reincarnation, and other New Age philosophies), but he also commended Unity and offered his success techniques to help Unity grow larger . In an address to a Unity congregation in Warren, Michigan, Schuller's motivational talk presented Jesus as "the greatest Possibility Thinker of all time!" (Reported in the 1/88 issue of the CIB Bulletin.)
Unity is a Mind-science cult, with occultic beliefs incorporated as well. Actually they accept just about anything except the biblical record.
"The classical interpretation of this teaching of Christ on 'bearing our cross' desperately needs reformation...."
"The cross Christ calls us to bear will be offered as a dream... an inspiring idea that would incarnate itself in a form of ministry that helps the self-esteem-impoverished persons to discover their self-worth through salvation and subsequent social service in our Savior's name..." "So the proclamation of possibility thinking is the positive proclamation of the cross!..."
He was asked, 'Dr. Schuller, we hear a lot of talk these days about the New Age, the Age of Aquarius, the type of New Age thinking that we are involved in with Holistic healing and various other things that are part of what is called the New Age. Will you describe the role of what you might consider the New Age minister in the '80s and beyond?'"
"Schuller replied, 'Well, I think it depends upon where you're working. I believe that the responsibility in this Age is to 'positivize' religion. Now this probably doesn't have much bearing to you people, being Unity people, you're positive. But I talk a great deal to groups that are not positive... even to what we would call Fundamentalists who deal constantly with words like sin, salvation, repentance, guilt, that sort of thing.'" "So when I'm dealing with these people... what we have to do is positivize the words that have classically only had a negative interpretation." (Address at Unity Village, Unity tape)
Schuller states, "It is important to remember that meditation in any form is the harnessing, by human means, of God's divine laws.... We are endowed with a great many powers and forces that we do not yet fully understand.( He believes these are valid methods for "the harnessing, by human means, of God's divine laws. ..."
“A variety of approaches to meditation . . . is employed by many different religions as well as by various nonreligious mind-control systems. In all forms . . . TM, Zen Buddhism, or Yoga . . . the meditator endeavors to overcome the conscious mind ...”
The most effective mantras employ the "M" sound. You can get the feel of it by repeating the words, "I am, I am," many times over.... Transcendental Meditation or TM... is not a religion nor is it necessarily anti-Christian.” (Peace of Mind Through Possibility Thinking, 1977 pp. 131-32)
This is what people in the occult do (such as I AM groups like the Ballard's or Elizabeth Claire Prophet)
TM is religious and is Hinduism, its promoted by the Maharishi who is Hindi, and leads to union with the Hindu God Brahma and to eternal separation from Christ. A variety of meditation is employed by many different religions TM, Zen Buddhism, or Yoga.
Robert Schuller can say “It is important to remember that meditation in any form is the harnessing, by human means, of God's divine laws he is essentially promoting another religions practices within the church.
It is easy to see how these eastern religious and occult practices came into the Church…..Robert Schuller has been endorsed as a “Christian” pastor by many respected Church leaders (Billy Graham) however, Robert Schuller is anything but a Christian, he is a humanist, a psychologist, a New Age thinker who denies the authority of Jesus Christ and the Word of God….Mr. Schuller is a Wolf in Sheep’s clothing who has led millions away from the Biblical TRUTH of God’s Word!
From Robert Schuller's book, My Journey
"I met once more with the Grand Mufti (a Muslim), truly one of the great Christ-honoring leaders of faith. ... I'm dreaming a bold impossible dream: that positive-thinking believers in God will rise above the illusions that our sectarian religions have imposed on the world, and that leaders of the major faiths will rise above doctrinal idiosyncrasies, choosing not to focus on disagreements, but rather to transcend divisive dogmas to work together to bring peace and prosperity and hope to the world...." p. 502
"Standing before a crowd of devout Muslims with the Grand Mufti, I know that we're all doing God's work together. Standing on the edge of a new millennium, we're laboring hand in hand to repair the breach." p. 501
Who else is speaking at the National Worship Leaders Conference hosted by Calvary Chapel of Albuquerque?
Others, such as Mr. Maher routinely minister in Roman Catholic fellowships (is he a Roman Catholic, or an ex-Roman Catholic and a Christian simply reaching out to these souls?):
Matt Maher - is still involved in local church ministry at St. Timothy Catholic Community, as well as helping out with the young adult ministry at All Saints Newman Center on the campus of Arizona State University.
Buddy Owens - is Pastor of Spiritual Growth at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California.
Scott Dyer - is the Pastor of Worship and Arts at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship, in the northern suburbs of Dallas, TX, where he has served since February of 2004. Prior to coming to Bent Tree, Scott spent 14 years on the staff of Willow Creek Community Church and the Willow Creek Association.
Stan Endicott - is Executive Worship Pastor at Mariners Church in Irvine, Calif., a large church known for progressive and culturally compelling approaches to worship, communications and ministry. He also consults with churches around the country and continues to work with established and up-and-coming recording artists in music production. Stan is a mainstay at Arts and Worship conferences at Willow Creek Community Church in Barrington, Ill., and at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., where he also directs the worship choir.
Curt Coffield - Curt is committed to helping others worship. He is the Pastor at Sewickley Valley North Way Christian Community in Pennsylvania. Formerly, Curt served as Worship and Teaching Pastor at Resurrection Life Church in Grandville, Michigan; as Worship Pastor at Shoreline Community Church in Monterey, California; and as Worship Director at Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Illinois. As a member of Integrity Music's band PK7, Curt led worship for Promise Keeper events in arenas around the country for several years.
Tony Guerrero - is currently serving as the Director of Creative Arts at Saddleback Church, where he leads a mostly volunteer group of hundreds of musicians, singers, and performers in a variety of arenas.
Randy Swanson - has been involved in Creative Arts ministry for over 30 years. He has a degree in music from UCLA and a JD from Western States University. He was admitted to practice law in California in 1983. As an accomplished trumpet artist he performs in churches and orchestras on a regular basis. He served as the Executive Director for the Robert Schuller Performing Arts Center.
So why are doctrinally sound pastors yoking themselves up with those who teach a false gospel? Are they themselves being deceived? Are they truly God’s under shepherds? Are they themselves wolves? Are they compromising in order to be apart of the “mainstream” mega churches? I don’t know the answer, but I know that there are many warnings in the Bible about the apostasy of the last day’s church. Jesus himself warned us not too be deceived. We must take heed lest we too are caught up in the deception sweeping the church!
I would also point out the tie between the Hybels and President Obama’s new “Green Shepherd” and far leftist liberal pastor, Jim Wallis.
I listened to a program on Christian Worldview yesterday discussing the Social Justice Movement and how it is infiltrating the Church. Those who are at the top of this big radical environmental and social justice movement include Rev. Jim Wallis…as well as the Hybels of Willow Creek.
Background….Mr. Wallis who was head of the Students for a Democratic Society at Michigan State University up until the present time, has been moving in the left wing, collectivistic, communistic crowd for all of these years…and now he is the new spiritual advisor to the President of the United States. The President of the U.S. has given Jim Wallis his marching orders…telling him that now he is going to be the “Green Shepherd” to lead the Evangelical Church into the Whitehouse’s program of Climate Change under the guise of justice and injustice.
The question conservative Christians should ask is why is a pastor so popular among secularist liberals who routinely vilify Christians for their involvement in political issues? The answer is to be found in Jim Wallis’ consistently radical—and even Marxist—worldview. FrontPageMagazine.org has published a lengthy expose on Jim Wallis’ far-left background, including his anti-capitalist views and his support of Communist or terrorist regimes throughout the history of Sojourners. While Wallis was in seminary, he founded an anti-capitalist magazine called Post-American. In it, Wallis called for the redistribution of wealth and government managed economies. This anti-capitalist worldview is expressed in religious terms as a quest for “social justice.”
In January 2005, Democrat Senators met in a closed session with Wallis to figure out how they could use religious language to pull evangelical voters away from the Republican Party to vote Democratic. In addition, 15 Democrat House members made Wallis their guest of honor at a breakfast. His topic was how to turn religious voters in to Democrats. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NM) admitted that Wallis was working closely with the leadership to lure religious voters to the Democrat Party.
In 2005, Wallis was appearing on TV and radio talk shows all over the U.S. and was being interviewed by the mainstream print media as well. The New York Times reported that Democrats in the House has picked Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) to establish a “faith working group” that would “encourage lawmakers to sprinkle references to God and religion into their speeches.” Jim Wallis was their pick to help them devise clever ways to fool Americans into believing secular liberals had found “religion.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Case in point, Lynn Hybels, the wife of Rev. Bill Hybels of Willow Creek is now writing for the website (Sojourner) of Rev. Jim Wallis, a pro-Marxist.
Listen to: Worldview Radio: Worldview Matters with Brannon Howse - May 7th, 2010
I believe that the apostate church will play a leading role in destroying America and introducing the new-age system of the globalists…world government and religious system.
If you want to know where Bill Hybel stands on these issues, you don’t have to look much further than the Magazine the put out, called Willow. Article titles in this Willow issue certainly make a statement Seismic Shifts," "Rediscovering Spiritual Formation," "Stemming the Tide," "The Changing Face of Worship," "Shifts in Missional Mindset," and "The Next Great Debate." With such commitment to change, it's no wonder Willow Creek supports Brian McLaren, who is currently on his "Everything Must Change" tour. You can flip through the magazine yourself online:
WARNING FOR SHEEP:
A little know fact about shepherds………they NEVER, EVER, EVER expose their sheep to wolves or any other danger……they feed the sheep, and carefully watch over and protect the sheep……to not do so goes against all that is biblically sound!
John 10:11 (King James Version)
“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.”
More on Rick Warren…..
The following is a list of concerns regarding the teachings of Rick Warren. These examples were taken from the book by Warren B. Smith “Deceived on Purpose” (from chapter 1 of A “Wonderful” Deception)
Ten Basic Concerns
1) Rick Warren Cites New Age Leader
In The Purpose Driven Life, Rick Warren introduces his main themes of “hope” and “purpose.” Inexplicably, Warren chooses to introduce “hope” and “purpose” in his book by citing Dr. Bernie Siegel—a veteran New Age leader who claims to have a spirit-guide named George.(1) Somehow, readers of The Purpose Driven Life are expected to believe that God inspired Warren to introduce the themes of hope and purpose by referencing the “wisdom” of Bernie Siegel, an author and leader in the New Age movement. But the Bible warns that this kind of worldly wisdom is not from God and can confuse and stumble believers, and completely mislead unbelievers:
This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. (James 3:15)
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. (Romans 14:13)
2) Rick Warren Sends Confusing New Age Message: “God is in everything”
Out of the fifteen different Bible versions Rick Warren uses in The Purpose Driven Life, he chooses to cite Ephesians 4:6 from a new translation that erroneously conveys the panentheistic New Age teaching that God is “in” everything. According to New Age leaders, this teaching is foundational to the New Age/New Spirituality.(2) Yet of these fifteen Bible versions Warren uses in his book, he chooses the New Century Version that has potentially misled millions of Purpose Driven readers to believe this key New Age doctrine that God is “in” everything.
Regarding God, Warren writes: The Bible says, “He rules everything and is everywhere and is in everything”(3)
The New Century Version quoted by Rick Warren verbalizes what A Course in Miracles and my other New Age books taught me years ago—that God is “in” everyone and everything. This completely misrepresents what the apostle Paul is saying in Ephesians 4:6.
In Deceived on Purpose, I explain:
In this Scripture Paul is not writing to the world at large. The book of Ephesians is Paul’s letter to the Church of Ephesus and to the faithful followers of Jesus Christ. In Ephesians 1:1 he makes it clear that he is writing to “the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus.”
According to properly translated Scripture, God is not “in” everyone and everything, and God’s Holy Spirit only indwells those who truly accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior (John 14:15-17; Acts 5:32).
In Deceived on Purpose, I wrote:
Because the Church of Ephesus was composed of believers who had accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior, God had sent His Holy Spirit to them. Therefore, as a result of their conversion God’s Holy Spirit resided in them all. Thus, Paul is only addressing the believers of Ephesus and the “faithful in Christ Jesus” when he stated that God is “above all, and through all, and in you all.” He was not saying that God is present in unbelievers. He was not saying that God is “in” everyone and “in” everything. That is what the New Age teaches.(4)
It is vital to understand the difference in renderings of Ephesians 4:6. Compare the New Century Version that Rick Warren quotes with the King James Bible:
He rules everything and is everywhere and is in everything. (NCV)
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. (KJV)
3) Rick Warren and The Message
In The Purpose Driven Life, Rick Warren cites Eugene Peterson’s The Message more than any other Bible version. The Message is laden with its own set of questionable New Age implications. In the first chapter of The Purpose Driven Life, five of the six Scriptures that Warren cites come from The Message. Warren states that The Message is a Bible “paraphrase,” yet he frequently writes, “the Bible says” when quoting from The Message.(5)
One of the many examples of the New Age implications of The Message is seen in Eugene Peterson’s paraphrasing of the Lord’s Prayer. Where most translations read “in earth, as it is in heaven,” Peterson inserts the occult/New Age phrase “as above, so below.” The significance of this mystical occult saying is seen clearly in As Above, So Below, a book published in 1992 by the editors of New Age Journal. Chief Editor Ronald S. Miller describes how the occult/magical saying “as above, so below” conveys the “fundamental truth about the universe”—the teaching that “we are all one” because God is “immanent” or “within” everyone and everything. Miller writes:
Thousands of years ago in ancient Egypt, the great master alchemist Hermes Trismegistus, believed to be a contemporary of the Hebrew prophet Abraham, proclaimed this fundamental truth about the universe: “As above, so below; as below, so above.” This maxim implies that the transcendent God beyond the physical universe and the immanent God within ourselves are one. Heaven and Earth, spirit and matter, the invisible and the visible worlds form a unity to which we are intimately linked.(6)
Miller continues describing the meaning of “as above, so below” by quoting Sufi scholar Reshad Field:
“‘As above, so below’ means that the two worlds are instantaneously seen to be one when we realize our essential unity with God. . . . The One and the many, time and eternity, are all One.”(7) (ellipsis in original)
In 2004 when I searched “as above, so below” on the Internet, the first entry listed further defined this “key” New Age term:
This phrase comes from the beginning of The Emerald Tablet and embraces the entire system of traditional and modern magic which was inscribed upon the tablet in cryptic wording by Hermes Trismegistus. The significance of this phrase is that it is believed to hold the key to all mysteries. All systems of magic are claimed to function by this formula. “‘That which is above is the same as that which is below’ . . . The universe is the same as God, God is the same as man.”(8)
Most of the references, either on websites or in books and magazines containing the phrase “as above, so below” describe the term as having the same occult/mystical/New Age/esoteric/magical sources. One website states:
This ancient phrase, “As above, so below” describes the Oneness of All That Is.(9)
In Deceived on Purpose, I discuss my concerns over Rick Warren placing such great emphasis on Eugene Peterson’s The Message. When I looked up Ephesians 4:6 in The Message, Peterson’s paraphrase (like the New Century Version) also definitely lends itself to the New Age interpretation that God is present “in” everyone.
In The Message, Peterson introduces his readers—with no parenthetical warnings or explanations—to the concept of ‘Oneness’:
You have one Master, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who rules over all, works through all, and is present in all. Everything you are and think and do is permeated with Oneness.(10)
The “as above, so below” God “in” everything “Oneness” message of Eugene Peterson’s paraphrase The Message sounds strikingly similar to the same “as above, so below” God “in” everything “Oneness” message of the New Age/New Spirituality. Such a teaching is contrary to what the Bible teaches. We are only “one” in Christ Jesus when we repent of our sins and accept Him as our Lord and Savior.
Galatians 3:26-28 states:
“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
4) The Purpose Driven Life’s Distorted View of Bible Prophecy
In The Purpose Driven Life, Rick Warren strongly discourages the study of prophecy. He states that “in essence” Jesus told his disciples: “The details of my return are none of your business.”(11) Contrary to what Warren writes, in Jesus’ discussion on the Mount of Olives, He tells His disciples that an understanding of the details of His return is very important. He provides much needed prophetic information so that His followers will not be deceived about the details of His return at the end of time.
In Deceived on Purpose, I explain:
He warns that there will be false teachers and false teachings that will try to confuse the details of His return. He provides the prophetic detail because He didn’t want His disciples, or any of us, mistaking Antichrist’s arrival for His own return. He initiates His lengthy prophetic discourse by saying, “Take heed that no man deceive you.” He ends His discussion by warning them to “watch” and “be ready.”(12)
As someone who has come out of New Age teachings, I find it very disturbing that Rick Warren writes that the details of Jesus’ return are none of our business. In Deceived on Purpose, I talk about the role that these details had in my own eventual conversion:
Understanding the events surrounding His return was critical to understanding how badly I had been deceived by my New Age teachings. I had learned from reading the Bible that there is a false Christ on the horizon and that for a number of years I had unknowingly been one of his followers. Because the Bible’s clear authoritative teachings about the real Jesus and His true return had been brought to my attention, I was able to see how deceived I was. By understanding that there is a false Christ trying to counterfeit the true Christ’s return, I was able to renounce the false Christ I had been following and commit my life to the true Jesus Christ.(13)
5) Rick Warren and John Marks Templeton
Rick Warren unwittingly lent himself to the “purposes” of New Age sympathizer John Marks Templeton, as shown in Deceived on Purpose:
Even as I write, [New Age leader] Neale Donald Walsch’s New Age colleague Wayne Dyer is teaching the principles of the New Spirituality to an unsuspecting American public on a 3-hour PBS television special. His subject? The power of intention and purpose. While Dyer was cleverly presenting the New Spirituality by talking about the power of “purpose,” Rick Warren was judging a “Power of Purpose” essay contest for the New Age-based Templeton Foundation. John Templeton—with his strong New Age and metaphysical leanings—believes in a “shared divinity between God and humanity.”(14)
I pointed out that the late Templeton had been featured on the cover of Robert Schuller’s Possibilities magazine and was described as “my wonderful role model” by Neale Donald Walsch.
6) Robert Schuller’s Influence on Rick Warren
I discovered that Rick Warren had been greatly influenced by Robert Schuller and that he frequently used unattributed material from Schuller’s writings. In promoting his 2004 Robert H. Schuller Institute for Successful Church Leadership, Schuller stated that Warren was a graduate of his Institute.(15) Furthermore, on an April 4, 2004 Hour of Power television broadcast, Schuller described how Warren had come to his Institute for Successful Church Leadership “time after time.”(16) And Rick Warren’s wife, Kay, was quoted in a 2002 Christianity Today article saying that Schuller “had a profound influence on Rick.”(17)
In reading Schuller’s past writings, it soon became apparent that Schuller had indeed greatly influenced Rick Warren’s ministry and that Warren often used Schuller’s material without any attribution to Schuller.
One of the many examples where Warren emulates Schuller’s material can be seen in the following comparison of their writings. In his 1982 book Self-Esteem: The New Reformation, Robert Schuller writes:
Our very survival “as a species depends on hope. And without hope we will lose the faith that we can cope.”(18)
Twenty years later in his 2002 book The Purpose Driven Life, Rick Warren writes:
Hope is as essential to your life as air and water. You need hope to cope.(19)
Another example of how Rick Warren mirrors Robert Schuller is found in Warren’s 1995 book The Purpose Driven Church. He concludes his book by writing:
Accept the challenge of becoming a purpose-driven church! The greatest churches in history are yet to be built.(20)
Rick Warren’s statement is almost a direct quote from Schuller’s 1986 book Your Church Has A Fantastic Future!, which quotes a pastor saying:
Ten years ago, I heard Dr. Robert Schuller say at his leadership conference, “The greatest churches in the world are yet to be built!”(21)
These are just two of many other examples I found where Rick Warren uses unattributed material from Schuller’s writings and teachings.
In Deceived on Purpose, I wrote:
The more I read Robert Schuller, the more I was shocked at how so many of Rick Warren’s thoughts, ideas, references, words, terms, phrases, and quotes in The Purpose Driven Life seemed to be directly inspired by Schuller’s writings and teachings.(22)
7) Rick Warren and Robert Schuller’s “New Reformation” & “God’s Dream”
Rick Warren’s proposed “New Reformation” and his “God’s Dream” Global P.E.A.C.E. Plan are strikingly similar to Robert Schuller’s proposed “New Reformation” and his “God’s Dream” plan “to redeem society.” The only real difference between their basic plans is that Schuller proposed his “New Reformation” and “God’s Dream” plan twenty years previous to Warren. In his 1982 book Self-Esteem: The New Reformation, Schuller called for a “New Reformation” in the church.(23) To accomplish this New Reformation he frequently invoked the metaphor “God’s Dream” to describe God’s “great plan to redeem society.”(24) Twenty years later, Warren was also calling for a “New Reformation” in the church.(25) To accomplish his proposed New Reformation, Warren also invoked the “God’s Dream” metaphor that Schuller had used over two decades earlier to describe his New Reformation and his “plan.”(26) Warren described his new reformational P.E.A.C.E. Plan as “God’s Dream For You—And The World!,”(27) which also happens to resemble the PEACE Plan proposed by Neale Donald Walsch.
In Deceived on Purpose, I wrote:
Following Schuller’s forty-year commitment to his church, Rick Warren made a forty-year commitment to the Saddleback community. He “grew” his mega-church by faithfully implementing all that he had learned from Schuller. . . . Now Schuller’s concept of “God’s Dream” was being used to inspire millions of Christians to get behind his [Warren’s] 5-Step P.E.A.C.E. Plan to “change the world”—a 5-Step P.E.A.C.E. Plan that, on paper, bore an eerie resemblance to the 5-Step PEACE Plan proposed by Neale Donald Walsch and his New Age “God.”(28)
8) New Age Embraces Schuller’s New Reformation
In Neale Donald Walsch’s 2002 book, The New Revelations, Walsch and his New Age “God” praise Robert Schuller’s ministry and laud Schuller’s call for a New Reformation. Walsch describes how he and his “God” are also calling for a “New Reformation.” In fact, they commend Schuller and believe that Schuller’s New Reformation can merge with their plan to help bridge the divide between the Christian church and the teachings of the New Age/New Spirituality. They also present their New Reformation in the form of a 5-Step PEACE Plan (29) that is similarly put forth in the form of an acronym—much like Rick Warren’s 5-Step P.E.A.C.E. Plan.(30) In The New Revelations: A Conversation with God, Walsch, in a conversation with his “God,” states:
Rev. Robert H. Schuller, the American Christian minister who founded the famous Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, California, said twenty years ago in his book Self-Esteem: The New Reformation that what is needed is a second reformation within the Church, to move it away from its message of fear and guilt, retribution, and damnation, and toward a theology of self-esteem.(31)
Walsch quotes Schuller as saying that the “church” is “failing at the deepest level to generate within human beings that quality of personality that can result in the kinds of persons that would make our world a safe and sane society.”(32) Walsch continues his conversation with “God” about Robert Schuller:
Dr. Schuller went on to suggest that “sincere Christians and church-persons can find a theological launching point of universal agreement if they can agree on the universal right and uncompromising need of every person to be treated with great respect simply because he or she is a human being!”(33)
Walsch then calls Schuller an “extraordinary minister” and quotes him again as saying:
“As a Christian, a theologian, and a churchman within the Reformed tradition, I must believe that it is possible for the church to exist even though it may be in serious error in substance, strategy, style or spirit.”(34)
But, he [Schuller] said, ultimately “theologians must have their international, universal, transcreedal, transcultural, transracial standard.”(35)
Walsch’s “God” answers Walsch:
Rev. Schuller was profoundly astute in his observations and incredibly courageous in making them public. I hope he is proud of himself!
I suggest that such an international, universal, transcreedal, transcultural, transracial standard for theology is the statement: “We Are All One. Ours is not a better way, ours is merely another way.”
This can be the gospel of a New Spirituality. It can be a kind of spirituality that gives people back to themselves.(36)
I do not believe it is just coincidence that Neale Donald Walsch—like Robert Schuller and Rick Warren—is also calling for a New Reformation. Nor do I believe it is a coincidence that Walsch and his “God” identify with Schuller and suggest Schuller’s New Reformation as a prototype for their PEACE Plan. Nor do I believe it is a coincidence that Warren has also used Schuller’s New Reformation as the prototype for his P.E.A.C.E. Plan and that both the New Age and Warren have devised 5-Step PEACE Plans to encourage their mutual calls for a New Reformation.
Other New Age leaders, like Bernie Siegel and Gerald Jampolsky also praise Robert Schuller and endorse his writings and teachings.(37) Jampolsky and Schuller have mutually endorsed each other’s books.(38) In his book Self-Esteem: The New Reformation, Schuller favorably cites Jampolsky and praises the New Age leader for his “profound theology.”(39) Yet it is Jampolsky who first introduced me to the teachings of A Course in Miracles when I was in the New Age movement. I would later discover to my amazement that A Course in Miracle groups were meeting on the grounds of Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral back in 1985.(40) I would also learn that Schuller has had an ongoing relationship with his “dear friend” Gerald Jampolsky from the early 1980s up through the present day.(41) And it is not surprising that Bernie Siegel—the New Age leader Rick Warren cites in The Purpose Driven Life—had been a long-time member of the Board of Advisors for Jampolsky’s A Course in Miracles-based New Age Attitudinal Healing Centers.(42)
9) The Implications of Schuller’s Influence on Rick Warren
It became evident to me that Rick Warren was incorporating Robert Schuller’s plans and teachings into the Evangelical church. Whether it is “God’s Dream,” God “in” everything, the “New Reformation,” or something else, the non-referenced writings and teachings of Robert Schuller have been gradually introduced into the Evangelical church through Rick Warren.
In Deceived on Purpose, I wrote:
[I]t seemed that one of Rick Warren’s unstated purposes was to mainstream Robert Schuller’s teachings into the more traditional “Bible-based” wing of the Church. Many believers who seem to trust Rick Warren, ironically, do not trust Robert Schuller. Rick Warren’s “magic” seems to be able to make the teachings of Robert Schuller palatable to believers who would have otherwise never accepted these same teachings had they come directly from Schuller himself.(43)
Recognizing the overwhelming influence that Robert Schuller has had on Rick Warren and thousands of other pastors, I explain in Deceived on Purpose that “The Purpose Driven Church campaign to enlist every man, woman and child into its ranks to ‘do’ the P.E.A.C.E. Plan and to ‘do’ God’s Dream did not have its origins at Saddleback Church or in the singly inspired mind of Rick Warren.”(44) The spiritual foundation of the Purpose Driven movement can be found in the writings and teachings of Schuller’s fifty-year ministry. While Warren and other Christian leaders and organizations “forge new Purpose-Driven alliances around the world, the real architect of this seemingly unsinkable Purpose-Driven ship sits quietly in his office at the Crystal Cathedral.”(45)
I found it very ironic that while evangelical pastors were studying and speaking at Schuller’s Institute for Successful Church Leadership, A Course in Miracles groups were also meeting in Crystal Cathedral classrooms. Apparently, these pastors “thought that Schuller knew what he was doing because he had a big ‘successful’ church, and they wanted one, too.”(46)
10) A Serious Concern—A Sober Warning
I concluded Deceived on Purpose by stressing that it is not too late for Rick Warren to recognize how he has been influenced by Robert Schuller and by New Age teachings that are taking the church into the New Spirituality.
He [Warren] could open many people’s eyes if he started to expose the differences between biblical Christianity and the deceptive teachings of the New Age and its New Spirituality.(47)
However, I presented a sober warning regarding Rick Warren and other Christian leaders who remain in denial about the very real threat of this pervasive spiritual deception that will seriously endanger many who are trusting in their judgment. I explained:
Sadly, if Rick Warren and other Christian leaders fall for New Age schemes and devices rather than exposing them, they will take countless numbers of sincere people down with them. It will be the blind leading the blind, as they fall further and further into the deceptive ditch of the New Age and its New Spirituality. Undiscerning Christians, who think they are on “the narrow way” preparing the way for Jesus Christ, may discover too late that they had actually been on “the broad way” preparing the way for Antichrist. It is not too late to warn everyone, but it must be done soon before the deception advances any further.(48)
(View Endnotes: A Wonderful Deception - Warren B. Smith)
MORE ON LEONARD SWEET - In His Own Words
"The first of these five untheorized observations is that New Light embodiment means to be "in connection" and 'in-formation' with other Christians. Deeper feeling and higher relating go together. The church is fundamentally one being, one person, a comm-union whose cells are connected to one another within the information network called the Christ consciousness." (Quantum Spirituality, P. 122)
"Energy-fire experiences take us into ourselves only that we might reach outside of ourselves. Metanoia is a de-centering experience of connected-ness and community. It is not an exercise in reciting what Jesus has done for me lately. Energy-fire ecstasy, more a buzz than a binge, takes us out of ourselves, literally. That is the meaning of the word 'ecstatic.'" (Quantum Spirituality, P. 93)
Note: This ecstasy Sweet speaks refers to the New Age ecstasy that occurs in an altered state of consciousness.
The power of small groups is in their ability to develop the discipline to get people "in-phase" with the Christ consciousness and connected with one another. (P. 147)
New Lights offer up themselves as the cosmions of a mind-of-Christ consciousness. As a cosmion incarnating the cells of a new body, New Lights will function as transitional vessels through which transforming energy can renew the divine image in the world, moving postmoderns from one state of embodiment to another. (P. 48)
A surprisingly central feature of all the world's religions is the language of light in communicating the divine and symbolizing the union of the human with the divine: Muhammed's light-filled cave, Moses' burning bush, Paul's blinding light, Fox's "inner light," Krishna's Lord of Light, Bohme's light-filled cobbler shop, Plotinus' fire experiences, Bodhisattvas with the flow of Kundalini's fire erupting from their fontanelles, and so on." (P. 235)
The various quotations were taking from the teachings and publishing’s of those represented in this article. So you tell me, what is wrong with this picture? Why are Evangelical pastors becoming entangled with those who are teaching a false gospel?
It is compromise, it is wrong and the Church must not participate in anything that defames the true Gospel message, and presents a false one! It is not the mission of the church to become relevant to the world! It is the mission of the Church to present the TRUTH! The Gospel according to the Scriptures! It is the will of God that we be not conformed to this world, but to be TRANSFORMED, by the renewing of the mind in CHRIST JESUS!
It is important that all true believer’s do their homework! Don’t take my word for it, research what these widely accepted “winds of doctrine” are, and test them according to the scriptures.
I will say this again and again, read the scriptures, study the scriptures, know the scriptures, pray for discernment, stand for righteousness, stand for truth according to what God hath said.
Matthew 16:24 (King James Version)
“Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.”
BE A FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST.
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